Attack what one defender cannot protect together.
An overloaded piece has more defensive tasks than it can perform at once. Look for a capture or threat that forces it to abandon another target. Defending two things is not enough by itself: the opponent must be unable to meet both threats.
Trade your rook for the rook
Your rook takes the rook. After the queen recaptures, both sides have given up a piece of the same value.
2 more clean runs (at any point) to reach Recall.